A Fallout 3 and New Vegas mod that greatly improves the user interface without compromising the original style.

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Jul 22 2023 Anchor

Hey there,

I am not 100% sure that my issue stems from VUI+ alone, but if it does, you may have a bug to fix. Well, not that you have to - I simply would be delighted, if you did. VUI+ version is 9.48

Crippled outline visible permanently

I made this via phone and must have been a bit shaky, but I hope you'll notice well enough, what I'm going to be talking about.
The artifact in question is an outline of the Vault Boy Paper Doll that shows on the top right of the screen (visible on top of the cloud to the lower left of the cloth or tin ceiling). In this case it's the head, but it remains from either body part that has been crippled and will persist through save reloads, but not game restarts.

I'm not 100% certain, but I think the file I can trace the outline to would have to be interfaceshared0.dds, but I'm clueless as to which .xml modifies the crippled paper doll showing on screen.

Modlist (entries after #35 shouldn't matter, to my understanding of things except for my own keybinding reassigns, perhaps):

#Mod_Priority,#Mod_Name
"0000","Tale of Two Wastelands"
"0001","TTW_3.3.2_Hotfix"
"0003","ROOGNVSE Plugin"
"0004","JIP LN NVSE Plugin"
"0005","JohnnyGuitar NVSE"
"0006","CrashLogger"
"0007","NVTF - New Vegas Tick Fix"
"0008","NVTF - INI Presets"
"0009","lStewieAl's Tweaks and Engine Fixes"
"0010","Stewie Tweaks Essentials INI"
"0011","Combat Lag Fix (NVSE)"
"0012","ActorCause Save Bloat Fix"
"0013","FNV Mod Limit Fix"
"0014","kNVSE Animation Plugin"
"0015","Improved Console (NVSE)"
"0016","Console Paste Support"
"0017","ShowOff xNVSE Plugin"
"0018","ShowOff INI"
"0019","UIO - User Interface Organizer"
"0021","The Mod Configuration Menu"
"0022","MCM BugFix 2"
"0023","One HUD - oHUD"
"0024","Vanilla UI Plus (New Vegas)"
"0025","yUI - User Ynterface"
"0026","Clean Vanilla Hud"
"0027","Clean Companion Wheel"
"0028","Clean Vault Boy Paper Doll"
"0029","Consistent Pip-boy Icons"
"0030","Consistent Addon Icons"
"0031","Pop-Up Message Icons"
"0032","AidUI"
"0033","FOV Slider"
"0034","ySI - Sorting Ycons"
"0035","Clean AidUI"
"0036","Casino Exchange All"
"0037","Casino Exchange All Voices"
"0038","Faster Pip-Boy Animation"
"0039","Misc. Gamesetting Tweaks Presets"
"0040","Depth of Field Fix - NVSE"
"0041","Exterior Emittance Fix - NVSE"
"0042","Fog-based Object Culling"
"0043","Muzzle Flash Light Fix - NVSE"
"0044","Pip-Boy Shading Fix NVSE"
"0045","Dynamic Pip-Boy Light - NVSE"
"0046","High Res Local Maps"
"0047","High Resolution Bloom NVSE"
"0048","High Resolution Screens"
"0049","High Resolution Water Fog - Water Aliasing Fix"
"0050","Improved LOD Noise Texture"
"0051","Mostly Fixed FaceGen Tints"
"0053","Power Armor Visual Enhancement (PAVE) 2K"
"0054","PAVE Compatibility Plugins"
"0055","ISControl"
"0056","Anniversary Anim Pack"
"0057","Anniversary Anim Pack - General Bugfix"
"0058","Anniversary Anim Pack - General Bugfix (Bonus Patch)"
"0059","NV Compatibility Skeleton"
"0060","B42 Weapon Inertia"
"0061","Atmospheric Lighting Tweaks - TTW"
"0062","Desert Natural Weathers - TTW"
"0063","Improved Lighting Shaders"
"0064","MoonlightNVSE"
"0066","NMC TTW Complete"
"0067","OJO BUENO Texture Pack"
"0069","Much Needed LOD"
"0070","Wasted LOD - Cliffs of DC"
"0071","LOD additions and improvements"
"0072","TCM's LOD Overhaul"
"0073","More LODs Additions and fixes"
"0074","LOD Additions - TTW Patch"
"0076","Main Menu Redone - TTW"
"0077","Vault Door Loading Wheel - TTW"
"0078","Fallout 3 HD Overhaul"
"0079","Fallout 3 HD Overhaul DLC Anchorage"
"0080","Fallout 3 HD Overhaul DLC Broken Steel"
"0081","Fallout 3 HD Overhaul DLC Mothership Zeta"
"0082","Fallout 3 HD Overhaul DLC Point Lookout"
"0083","Fallout 3 HD Overhaul DLC The Pitt"
"0084","MetroMapReplacer"
"0085","Inviting Vaults - A vault retexture"
"0086","MGs NCR Pack 7 Ojo friendly"
"0087","6IXES Clutter Texture Pack NV Edition"
"0088","Fallout NV retexture by Superpele v2.0"
"0089","Higher Poly Rocks"
"0090","Higher Poly Rocks - No Vertex Shading"
"0091","Higher Poly Rocks 1.2 Micro Update"
"0092","High Res Vanilla Posters and Graffiti"
"0093","High Res Vanilla Posters and Graffiti (Urban)"
"0094","HiRes Raider Graffiti"
"0095","Blackwolf24s HD Clutter pack"
"0096","Blackwolf24s HD Clutter Pack 2"
"0097","Minimod - High Res Clutter Battery Cigarette Pack and Carton"
"0098","Assorted Cafeteria Textures"
"0099","Coffee Kettle - Replacer by zzjay"
"0100","Hectrol MiniNuke Deluxe HighRes Retex"
"0101","Hectrol Vegas Sewer Deluxe HighRes Retex"
"0102","Hectrol Tumbleweed Deluxe HighRes Retex"
"0103","Hectrol Mailbox Deluxe HighRes Retex"
"0104","Hectrol ED-E Deluxe HR Retex EVOLUTION PACK"
"0105","Elegant Lockpick Retexture"
"0106","Fractal Crystals"
"0110","Simply Upscaled Grass"
"0111","4k Animated Cash Register"
"0112","Urban Food Re-Tex"
"0113","HI-RES Chems and Health ReTexture Pak"
"0114","Neglected Clutter and Other Things - Retex"
"0115","Neglected Architecture and Furnitures"
"0116","Better Books - Fallout3NV"
"0117","Magazines of Unparalleled Aesthetic Quality"
"0118","PM's HD Ammo Boxes (F03 Edition)"
"0119","PM's HD Ammo Boxes (NV)"
"0120","Better Jukebox"
"0121","Quality Carts"
"0122","Audleys Misc Textures"
"0123","Ashen's Animations"
"0124","Fallout Flag Animation Overhaul"
"0125","Bouncing Natural Botany(BnB)"
"0126","Sandbags"
"0127","F4NV Auto Doc"
"0128","Legacy Reborn Texture Pack"
"0129","Legacy Reborn Texture Pack Hotfix"
"0130","Legacy Reborn - Mojave Cliffs"
"0131","Rubble Pile Shine Fix"
"0132","4K Anchorage Snowscape"
"0133","4K Lookout Swampscape"
"0134","Remastered Quarries 4K - 2K Mix"
"0135","Procedural Dirt Ground Retexture"
"0136","Irradiant Muck"
"0137","Glowing muck pools"
"0138","Yes we CAN"
"0139","New Sunset Sarsaparilla Vending Machine Replacer"
"0140","EdibleGrenade12's New Sunset Sarsaparilla Vending Machine Replacer Script Runner"
"0141","High Resolution Buffalo Gourd Seed"
"0142","Terrific Traffic Cones"
"0143","Awesome Apples"
"0144","Tasty Toasters"
"0145","Marvelous Maize"
"0146","Perfect Potatoes"
"0147","Prettier Pears"
"0148","Crunchy Carrots"
"0149","Fantastic Fire Hydrants"
"0150","Old Old Glory"
"0151","4k MedKit Replacer"
"0152","4k Animated Hotel Wardrobe"
"0153","4k Animated Metal Box Replacer"
"0154","Parking Blocks 2k"
"0155","Furniture Retextured"
"0156","Mormon Fort Gate Redux"
"0157","Forgotten Desk Texture Pack"
"0158","Suburban Chair Redux (Couch Chair)"
"0159","Hi-Res Typewriter"
"0160","Better Benches - Workbenches Retextured"
"0161","New Lunchbox Model"
"0162","New Food Sanitizer Model"
"0163","High Quality Picket Fences"
"0164","Rectified Water Towers"
"0165","HQ Metal Barrels"
"0166","Prime Tapes - HD Holotape Replacer"
"0167","Prime Terminals - HD Terminal Replacer"
"0168","High Res Vanilla Water Bottle"
"0169","I showed you my Dinky pls respond"
"0170","Gnomed"
"0171","Cinder block"
"0172","Vault Intercom"
"0173","Vault Transformer"
"0174","NCR Flag Retex 1.1"
"0175","NV Playing Cards HD Retexture"
"0176","Casino Tables Extra Grime"
"0177","Dinky the Deluxe Dinosaur - Definitive Dinky Retexture"
"0178","Resplendent Rugs - carpets retextured"
"0179","Charcoal Grill replacer"
"0180","Gun Runners Kiosk Glass Fix"
"0181","Improved Pickaxe"
"0182","Hotel Carpet Retexture"
"0183","Upscaled TTW Maps and Loading Screens"
"0184","Fallout Alpha Rendering Tweaks - NVSE"
"0185","xLoDGen"
"0186","Aqua Performa - Strip Performance Fix"
"0188","Placeable Map Markers"
"0189","Two Wastelands Redesigned - TTW - Project Beauty and NVR2"
"0190","Necris' Menu Keybinds"
"0191","Advanced Recon Thermal Nightvision"
"0192","Advanced Recon GEAR"
"0193","Advanced Recon Gear TTW"
"0194","Advanced Recon - Ranger Helm TWEAKS - TTW Version"
"0195","Advanced Recon HD Icons"
"0196","Character Preset Menu"
"0197","Semi-transparent Door Glass"
"0198","High Resolution Iguana on a Stick"
"0199","Bighorner Ultra High Resolution Texture"
"0200","HD Steam Gauge Assembly Retexture"
"0201","Jokerine's Lottery Ticket- Dirty version"
"0202","Pre-War Money Retexture"
"0203","Vintage Globe"
"0204","The Molerat Extravaganza - Molerat Retexture"
"0205","Snuffles Redesigned"
"0206","Higher Quality Tranquility Lane Paintings and Terminal Screens"
"0207","Improved Plunger"
"0208","aubri's sandbags - 2k"
"0209","Repconn HQ Planet Textures"
"0210","Black Ops Cold War Blood Splatter Decal"
"0211","HD Moon 2K - NASA Satellite Images"
"0212","Lower-sitting Ranger Hat"
"0213","PM's HD Legion Overhaul"
"0214","Legion Explorer Armor Fix"
"0215","Simple Reach"
"0216","New Vegas - Enhanced Camera"
"0218","Physically Based Parkware"
"0219","Physically Based Beverages"
"0220","Physically Based Chems"
"0221","Physically Based Collection"
"0222","Physically Based Kitchenware"
"0223","Physically Based Wood Crates"
"0224","4k Nuka Cola Vending Machine Replacer"

Here's the load order:

FalloutNV.esm
DeadMoney.esm
HonestHearts.esm
OldWorldBlues.esm
LonesomeRoad.esm
GunRunnersArsenal.esm
Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
CaravanPack.esm
ClassicPack.esm
MercenaryPack.esm
TribalPack.esm
TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm
YUPTTW.esm
Two Wastelands Redesigned.esm
Advanced Recon Tech.esm
Advanced Recon Gear.esm
Advanced Recon Gear TTW.esm
oHUD.esm
TTW 3.3.2 Hotfix.esp
The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
Vanilla UI Plus.esp
CPI Icons.esp
AidUI.esp
FOVSlider.esp
Casino Exchange All.esp
TTW FaceGen Fix.esp
B42Inertia.esp
Atmospheric Lighting Tweaks TTW.esp
Prime Terminals TTW - Vault 22 Terminal Fixes.esp
MapMarkers.esp
LegionExplorerArmour.esp
Snuffles Redesigned.esp
MuchNeededLOD.esp
Wasted LOD rocks.esp
tmzLODadditions.esp
LOD Additions - TTW Patch.esp
PAVE_NV_TTW.esp
Advanced Recon Ranger Helm TWEAKS - TTW.esp
SSTRemasteredQuarries.esp
DNWeathers.esp

I'm really sorry, should the issue arise from me just being retarded, but at the very least I'll know for certain then :D

Any tips as to how to troubleshoot this would also be much appreciated. For starters: I am using MO2 and I had deactivated all other HUD-related mods but VUI+ and still got the bug. Not sure whether or not there's changes in some .xml files that persist even after deactivating a mod, but if they do, improving my troubleshooting routine with hints would be even more advisable.

Best regards and many thanks for your great work

Necris

Jul 22 2023 Anchor

I don't think it's related to a UI mod. My mod controls the size and position of the paperdoll but not its visibility.

Try to find out which mod would affect this visibility.


Jul 22 2023 Anchor

Hmm... If I were at all competent in those regards, that is what I would have done. I've been researching ever since and before I posted this, but am not quite sure, where the problem stems from.
I suppose I'll have to set up a new profile in MO2 and start over fresh, installing all the mods I deem risky to install in order. I don't think it's a bug in either mod alone, but rather a conflict. I have no practical knowledge in modding HUD or NVSE script files though and wouldn't know where to start.
Ah well... selbst ist der Mann.

OK. I tested some stuff and found that the problem only occurs, when I run DXVK HDR. Using Auto HDR in Reshade or not using it doesn't make a difference.
Even with no mods installed, other than TTW, the game will create those artifacts. So yeah, I can now conclude that the error doesn't originate from any mods I was using, but some paperdolls result in way more obvious artifacts than others. One example here:

Vault Girl paperdoll

So yeah. I dunno. Has to be something on the engine level I'd surmise. But I'm not really knowledgable about that either.
For now, I'll post this on the DXVK page, but for anybody encountering the same thing, it'd be cool, if you could leave this thread open here as well.

Anyhow. Thanks for the quick response and the good work. Keep the good stuff coming, it's much appreciated.

Jul 22 2023 Anchor

VUI+ provides an easy method to minimize the HUD paperdoll. You can use it as a band-aid (or Pulvo) solution to get these legs and torsos off your screen.

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