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Don't apply Viva New Vegas UI suggestions if you're using Revelation (Games : Fallout: New Vegas : Mods : Vanilla UI Plus : Forum : Support & Feedback : Don't apply Viva New Vegas UI suggestions if you're using Revelation) Post Reply
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May 12 2024 Anchor

I'm having an issue that is related to using Revelation Lite, but I suspect can easily be fixed by doing some quick edits of the VUI+ xml files within it, so I hope it's okay to ask here. Basically, the shadowbox "background" behind NPC dialogue is misaligned. I suspect this is related to having an ultrawide display. I think I could probably fix this myself if I knew exactly what line(s) within the xml code I need to be editing, whether that's re-aligning the background or removing it entirely, so I'm mostly just looking for a pointer on where to go to do that.

Pics showing the problem:


May 12 2024 Anchor

Please post the dialog menu xml file from this mod/patch to a text service such as pastebin or github ("gist") and point me to it.

May 13 2024 Anchor

Here you go: Pastebin.com

Also only now seeing the damn typo in the thread title. Sigh.

May 13 2024 Anchor

Modify line 218 to a lesser value, try 5 instead of 30.

Try with a dialog that shows many topics and includes a scrollbar.

You might have to modify line 140 to a lesser add term instead of 28.

You might have to modify line 130 to a different _VUI+ScrollbarOffsetX term instead of -8.

I would suggest that you install the Classic Font option (during installation) and switch to font #4 for Revelation. It's the original Fallout font after all, it definitely matches Revelation.

Edited by: Axonis

May 13 2024 Anchor

Appreciate the help! Unfortunately, it doesn't look like the changes are having any effect. I modified line 218 to 5, line 140 to 1, and line 130 to -1.

Here is what NPC dialog looks like: Imgur.com

Modifying line 140 seems to have only had the effect of moving my own dialog choices further to the left, although I actually like that change so I'm keeping it: Before After

I already had the Classic Font installed for the Pip-Boy, so modifying the dialog XML to use it as well was a good call.

This is a brand new save I'm using for quickly testing load orders, and VUI+ already makes the dialog menus more compact, so I'm not sure if I can quickly find one with a scrollbar but I'll see if I can run to somebody. Johnson Nash is usually pretty wordy.

EDIT: I was looking at the xml some more - line 124 references "". Would editing that be a possible solution? Specifically <_VUI+ShadowOffset> or </_VUI+OutlineIntensity>.

Edited by: TaxEvasionCleric

May 13 2024 Anchor

Right. This isn't about dialog topics but subtitles.

And I now notice there's an extra background that's visible but it doesn't exist on my code.

I wonder if you have added another mod to add an extra background that's totally useless since Revelation provides its own textured background!?

May 13 2024 Anchor

... Well, I feel dumb now, but that's exactly what it was. I forgot I had "VUIPlus - Dialog Background Add-on" installed from following VNV for the basic setup for this reinstall. Disabling that fixed the problem for Revelation.

May 14 2024 Anchor

VNV's UI suggestions don't apply if you are using Revelation. That includes fonts, UI patches and extra addons.

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