Rise of the Reds – or ROTR for short – improves upon the C&C Generals formula while also adding its own distinct elements to it. Most notably, the mod adds two completely new factions, the tank-heavy Russian Federation and the defence-oriented European Continental Alliance. In addition, the three original factions China, USA and GLA have been greatly expanded and redesigned in a variety of ways, with several new units, buildings, powers and abilities to explore and combine in your in-game tactics.
The devastating GLA attacks on China changed the People's Republic, its leadership and society. Whilst the material damage of the nuclear attack in downtown Beijing was quickly mended, the flood damage caused by the destruction of Three Gorges Dam is still being repaired two decades later - to say nothing of the sheer human loss. After the war, many high-tech weapons developments for the People's Liberation Army were de-prioritised to concentrate the nation's resources on reconstruction.
Another consequence of the war was the enormous swelling of the PLA from just under 2.2 million active personnel to over 6.6 million to this day. Chinese military planners reckoned that an army that size cannot be consistently equipped with modern weapons, for the foreseeable future. On top of that, experience during the war had shown that high-tech systems, with their dependence on sensitive electronics, satellite guidance and networking, proved extremely vulnerable under battlefield conditions involving aggressive use of electronic warfare and nuclear weapons.
Rugged, inexpensive hardware, particularly in aviation, became the focus of a new doctrine centred around cost-saving and counter-insurgency. This led to China acquiring large stocks of older aircraft from other countries throughout the world. One such aircraft was the MiG-23. Developed as a fighter-bomber for the Soviet Air Force, the "Flogger", as it is unflatteringly known in the West, holds the record of being the most produced sweep wing aircraft in history with just over 5.000. Although quickly phased out after the end of the Cold War, countries such as Syria, Ethiopia, Angola and Cuba continued to use the aircraft well into the 21st century. The Chinese government accepted the "MiG Bomber" and other aircraft as partial payment in trade and debt reduction, and following thorough refurbishment, introduced it to the PLA Air Force which would use it to deliver incendiary strikes in low-intensity conflicts.
I was hoping for the Q5 Fantan but this is equally as nice. Good job people
There was a Q-6 project inspired by Mig-23 (China bought some planes from Egypt during the 1970s for studying ) and in the same time, it's a tribute to the Soviet Mig from Red Alert 1
My Migga
******* Awesome
"....The Chinese government accepted the "MiG Bomber" and other aircraft as partial payment in trade and debt reduction, and following thorough refurbishment, introduced it to the PLA Air Force which would use it to deliver incendiary strikes in low-intensity conflicts."
The last MiG-23 made was in 1985
ROTR is currently in the late 2040's
The PLAAF slapped a 60 year old airframe with new avionics and called it a day lol
If US and EU can use grannies like Leopard and Abrams, simply thrusting some few new donuts inside, why China can't.
There's no EU, ECA is using fictional Leopard 3, and US us not using Abrams.
There is real life, you know, so as mentioned "most modern armies" can use old stuff under heavy over-modernization, so faction in game can.
Yet you better first play a mod, before saying US doesn't use those.
Silly me, thinking you was talking about mod on a mod's page, in mod's update comment section, under comment talking about stuff set in mod's universe
I think the US and EU upgrading their old stocks of their own weapons is different from China buying 60+ year old airframes from random countries and upgrading them.
To put things into perspective, it's like Mexico buying thousands of M60 Pattons from Türkiye, Taiwan, and Egypt and upgrading every single one of them in house.
In fact I think the Chinese using the J-7 (old Hellfire MiG) for low cost incendiary strikes makes more sense because it's more simpler than a swing wing fighter bomber.
Why not? They literally did that with the mig21s and end up making a quasy 4th gen fighter with it by putting in new engines and avionics.
Just look at how the multiple f16 blocks existed even though it was a plane from the 70s
For export. The JF-17 is for export. China does not possess any fighter planes that are of the third generation. All of those that do exist in China are being converted to UAVs.
i guess rip to the classic MiG Hellfire
but on the other hand variable sweep wings will always be very cool
is this a new unit or has the same role as the current hellfire mig?
just a model update
Lets ******* go!!! I love the Flogger and its variants. Kinda surprised you didn't chose the Mig-27 over the 23, which was designed for ground attack. But hell, this is a worthy reveal.
Mig-23,a beautiful plane!
Why not the JH-7?
Personnal preference
China again copy the soviet!
and my final message is "what ups Beijing"
For anyone pointing out the oddness of buying an outdated airframe: This is explained in the sheer damage left by the GLA during Gens/ZH forcing the Chinese government to de-prioritise military modernisation in favour of reconstruction, as well as doctrinal considerations that arose during the war i.e. being less reliant on modern/digital technology that is more susceptible to mass EMP/electronic warfare.
But the -reason- why I engineered this admittedly complicated explanation is more of a meta one: It was decided to make a new model based on the MiG-23 (because it looks cool and resembles the iconic Soviet MiG from RA1), and for it to be called a "MiG Bomber" in-game, analogous to the already existing "MiG Fighter".
This necessitated some explanation why the Chinese would have access to a -literal- MiG aircraft that in reality was never sold to them in meaningful numbers. I am also aware of the abortive Q6, which strongly resembled the MiG-23, but invoking that one would have contradicted the in-game name of it -being- a MiG.
Other aircraft like the Q5 or JH7 would have been appropriate choices for the in-game role, but they tend to feature very often in other mods that present a more realistic arsenal of the PLA, so our creative choice was to go with something more fictional/unexpected instead.
Hope that provides some context :)
I don't think any explanation is needed tbh. But it's fun to point things out. :D
Seeing as the Chinese already deploy the Wish.com MiG 1.44, along with a highly modular attack helicopter, and a transport helicopter that looks like what happens when a Mi-6 and a Ka-27 love each other very much (planned), it's not much of a stretch to say that the RotR Chinese have a decent aircraft industrial base. So it's a bit of a surprise when instead of taking the old Floggers for debt repayment and vigorously reverse engineering them for mass production they refurbished them instead.
will this MiG-23 have a Gatling Gun or be replaced by bombs?
Same as current mig bombers. It is just a reskin
I see.
But a MiG-27 would be better, I think.MiG-27 is a real bomber and it looks similar to 23 but still has some apperence differrence.
Im amazed this mod continued in progress, I thought they abandoned it since there was no update for many years, still nothing closest to Generals core gameplay, if only Generals could have been remake in newer engine/graphics
on side note, will J-20 Chengdu possibly added in chinese air units in the future? I'd like to see latest tech units to be incorporated in ROTR, like Su-57 Felon/Pak FA
Haha, don't even dream! A faction whose soldiers run a semi-automatic rifle on a bayonet charge, it will be too technological! And the SU-57 already exists, but it's not called Phelon, it's called Sokol! He's not a fighter, he's a tank hunter!
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